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   Here you go Liar, you keep saying that there is no truth to what I have written below however I happen to know that it is ALL 100% true. Now it isn't hard to figure out why this is a big secret tha the chinese community does not want made public but hey. ...i think Canadians should know about this FAN QING FU MING oath.

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Gary Oak wrote:
This topic isn't idiotic at all. If it was idiotic you wouldn't all be so desperately trying to discredit and suppress this truth which I have uncovered and had confirmed many many times . Adding of course that is quite obvious. What also is quite obvious is the reasons that those who take this oath are so desperate to have kept under wraps. The oaths and rituals involving persecuting the QING , destroying the QING etc... that go along with the FAN QING FU MING oath make alot more sense once you understand who the QING dynasty represents in the oaths and rituals as the actual QING have very successfuilly culturalocided and genocided. over the last 100 years.Only about a dozen people can speak the [ QING ] Manchurian language now . I have come accross many times reading Chinese history books and books on the triads that the MING dynasty in this oath represents han chinese. The natural question is who does the QING dynasty represent in the FAN QING FU MING oaths and related rituals. The actual QING being nomads similar to Mongolians were and are considered by the chinese as being uncivilised FOREIGN barbarians. The hated Manchurians [ QING ] ruled China from 1644 to 1911. Now the fact that nonchinese Canadians to Chinese who have taken these oaths and rituals are represented by QING is evidenced by what they call us in cantonese LO FAN and natives HUNG FAN. LO meaning man and HUNG meaning red and FAN meaning FOREIGN uncivilised barbarian. If one doesn't believe that these terms are derogatory then try calling a chinese person WONG FAN as WONG means yellow.